Shulou(Shulou.com)11/24 Report--

According to news from CTOnews.com on March 17, Huawei recently held a spark award ceremony at its headquarters in Sakata, Shenzhen, to present awards to representatives of winners who made outstanding contributions to the problem solving list. Huawei President Ren Zhengfei delivered a speech, and some of the universities participating in the discussion released minutes of the discussion.

Ren Zhengfei said that during the three years of US sanctions against Huawei, Huawei completed the replacement development of 13000 + devices and the repeated replacement of 4000 + circuit boards, which did not stabilize until now because of the supply of domestic parts.

Ren Zhengfei said that Huawei is still in a difficult period, but it has not stopped on its way forward. "our R & D spending in 2022 is $23.8 billion, and we will continue to invest more in cutting-edge exploration in a few years as our profits increase."

According to it, Huawei's MetaERP will take an oath in April to use its own operating system, database, compiler and language. And made its own management system MetaERP software. MetaERP has experienced the practical test of the application of various departments of the company all over the world, and has passed the test of annual settlement of the company's general ledger.

For the current hot ChatGPT, Ren Zhengfei said that the big AI model will be surging in the future, not just Microsoft. The direct contribution of artificial intelligence software platform companies to human society may be less than 2%. 98% of them are the promotion of industrial society and agricultural society, and the popularization of AI services requires a 5G connection.

Huawei will only be the underlying computing platform for AI and will not touch the application platform. What are the opportunities for Huawei with ChatGPT? Ren Zhengfei believes that: it will expand the calculation, expand the pipeline flow, so that our products will have market demand.

Transcripts of speeches and expert symposia attached to CTOnews.com (edited):

First of all, thank you for your contribution to Huawei. We are still in a difficult time, but we have not stopped on the way forward. We will spend US $23.8 billion on R & D in 2022 and will continue to invest more in cutting-edge exploration in a few years' time as our profits increase. Our cooperation with universities is to explore the future of mankind within certain technological boundaries; 2012 laboratory is based on basic theory and applied theory to explore the possibility of reality without target assessment; the product line is responsible for the commercial success of the product. Roughly divided into these three stages, with the growth of our economic strength, we will continue to expand the "trumpet" of foreign cooperation.

When I was young, I admired the West very much, because Western science and technology were so developed, and in our time, books were so precious that it was difficult to see a good book. I wanted to read but could not buy it. After I founded Huawei, I was also pro-Western. At that time, we put forward the slogan "make the best products in the world with the best parts and tools in the world", and we realized it. Then we were suddenly sanctioned, and others could not provide us with spare parts and tools. Oh, we're stupid. Many of the best parts in the world come from the United States. In fact, I am pro-American. When the United States hit us with a blow and severely sanctioned us, Xu Zhijun said to me at the office meeting: "the United States does not understand. With this blow, they have turned the most pro-American person into the most anti-American person." Of course, I am not anti-American now. If we want to be the most advanced, we must learn from all the advanced people. The soft power of the United States in science and education is still beyond our reach in decades. American politicians are also round after round, and the soil of innovation in the United States for hundreds of years will not be degraded because of them.

Fortunately, it took us nearly 20 years to prepare for the basic theory and invested hundreds of billions of dollars to train a number of scientists and technical know-how experts to study the basic theory. They have been climbing the scientific "Himalayas". When we are suppressed, we invite these scientists to "herd sheep" and "farm" at the foot of the mountain. Take part in the battle of killing pigs with a scalpel. We have completed the replacement development of 13000 + devices and the repeated replacement of 4000 + circuit boards in three years.... no, no, no. It is not until now that our circuit board has stabilized because we have a supply of domestic parts.

In April this year, our MetaERP will take an oath to use its own operating system, database, compiler and language. And made its own management system MetaERP software. MetaERP has experienced the practical test of the application of various departments of the company all over the world, and through the test of the annual settlement of the company's general ledger, our company's account is very complex in the industry, and it has been successfully proved that MetaERP can be promoted. Many design tools have also been released to the public by Huawei Cloud, gradually overcoming the embarrassment of cutting off supply.

In the past, we have done a lot of research in cooperation with universities in western countries, and now we have begun to strengthen cooperation with domestic universities, which has something to do with the change of my personal guiding ideology. On our way to the forefront, we will gradually strengthen our cooperation in this regard at home. Now we can begin to understand each other. If you have any questions, you are welcome to discuss them together.

Question: our school wants to build a technical college for the future. when designing, we thought that if we could understand the future needs of innovative enterprises like Huawei and give students more guidance and space for development through school-enterprise cooperation, it will be able to promote the training of technical personnel in the future. This is our own idea as the education sector. I wonder if Huawei has corresponding ideas and specific measures to cooperate with colleges and universities in the future.

Ren Zhengfei: this may involve the institutional design of the country. In my opinion, science and technology are two different concepts. Science is discovery and technology is invention. Van Neva Bush has a well-written book Science: endless Frontiers. Science is the endless frontier, and the unknown is science. From this point of view, education and science are the same, education does not have to have an accurate answer, the accurate answer is not necessarily the needs of the school.

A doctoral student in MIT told me that they had no handouts or textbooks; the teacher came up to give a lecture, wrote on the blackboard and assigned a batch of reference materials; several professors criticized each other during their lectures, each had their own views, and each recommended some reference books to guide you to read; and then you wrote, writing articles without results, as long as the logic of thinking is appropriate, the teacher gave you a grade, this is science. The teacher is talking about the frontiers of his research, and he himself does not fully understand that science is made efforts from generation to generation. As long as a doctor has a way of thinking, there may not be results. Some science is too far away to prove in one step, and it is also good to have a correct process. Our spark award does not have to have a "result". Otherwise, how can it be called "the green comes from the blue and is better than the blue"? If education always pursues results, students' minds will be restricted. Therefore, it is not enough to be too pragmatic, demand-oriented and lead China forward. Education should be free to let students "fantasize", as long as the logic of his thinking coincides, do not restrain him. Reading is to get the key to open the door, the key is to read a methodology, the method of using knowledge is more important than knowledge. Because knowledge can be acquired on the Internet, how to combine, how to splice, this is what universities need to learn.

The needs of enterprises are realistic, because we have to solve practical problems, but education should not focus on practical needs, but should be oriented to the future.

Question: I just joined the school as an assistant professor this year, and my research direction is related to ChatGPT. In foreign countries, these studies are done by relatively young people, but at home, many resources are basically in the hands of relatively high-level professors or engineers, such as machines and students, but their understanding and follow-up of new technologies may not be enough. Young people have good ideas, but without machines, they can't recruit better students. Those who have the ability do not have the resources, and those who have the resources do not have the ability. In the face of such a situation, what advice and guidance does Ren always have?

Ren Zhengfei: I know that the EDA of the Chinese University of Hong Kong is very good, and other fields should also be very good; the semiconductor technology teaching of the City University of Hong Kong is very good; the theory of HKU is very good;

First, the types of scientists can be different. Some are architectural scientists, some are illustrative scientists, some are breakthrough scientists, and some are craftsmen. Older scientists, their life experience is very rich, the understanding of the system architecture is very clear; they explain the architecture model to young people, young people have strange ideas, it is easy to break through, and the defects in this architecture are easy to be repaired; some people go deep into practice and have accumulated rich Know-How experience in engineering implementation, and are good at solving complex engineering problems, which we also call craftsmen scientists. The most creative people are the young people, but the ones who have the most architectural ability are the experienced experts and professors who have a clear understanding of the whole structure. Therefore, only by combining the old, the middle-aged and the young can the country overcome the great difficulties.

In my opinion, the School of surveying and Mapping of Wuhan University has done a very good job. Five academicians give lectures to freshmen, which is the most correct thing. The first-grade child is the smartest, but he doesn't know what it's like to climb the "second floor", so the professor tells him "the second floor", "the third floor" and "the fourth floor".... What is it. It doesn't take eight years to graduate with a doctorate to suddenly realize that the "second floor" is like this. The reform in Shenzhen some time ago is very good. Doctoral students are middle school teachers and primary school teachers. This is the progress of the country. When you are a child, you should enlighten him about his ideal for the future. don't wait until he is getting old to tell him, or you will miss the best era of creation and invention. Because the most creative thinking is in childhood, his imaginary space, imagined people, and imagined interpersonal relationships are beyond our imagination. why should we put them in step at this time? why can't they be allowed to be a little out of step? China's future needs to let a hundred flowers blossom.

Second, there will be a surge in AI models in the future, and it's not just Microsoft. The direct contribution of artificial intelligence software platform companies to human society may be less than 2%. 98% of them are the promotion of industrial society and agricultural society, and the popularization of AI services requires a 5G connection. The reason why Germany is so supportive of Huawei's 5G is that it wants to promote the progress of artificial intelligence to German industry, and the production of many German factories is unmanned; China's Xiangtan Iron and Steel Plant, from steelmaking to rolling, is unmanned in front of the furnace; Tianjin Port also realized unmanned loading and unloading. As soon as the code was input, containers were automatically transported from the ship and then transported away by car. After using 5G + artificial intelligence underground in Shanxi coal mine, the number of personnel has been reduced by 60-70%, and most people work in suits in the control room on the ground. These are examples that have been used on a large scale, and in the end, they have made a great contribution to mankind.

We should pay attention to the application, especially the application of industrial and agricultural society, the application of the model is sometimes more promising than the model itself. But in addition to being the underlying computing platform for AI, the application platform is not our choice. There is nothing else in our company, so we have to focus on this area and strive to build a computing platform that meets the needs of society. The idea that the underlying platform will be open is what Xu Zhijun told me. We only account for a little bit of the 2% contribution to the platform. What are the opportunities for us by ChatGPT? It will enlarge the calculation and the flow of the pipeline, so that our products will have market demand.

Question: boss Ren said just now that you didn't read books when you were young, but you founded Huawei and created miracles. Did personal leadership and personal heroism play a decisive role?

Ren Zhengfei: I am talking about the sixties. At that time, we opposed the white college and lacked technical books. Unlike today, there are so many books and the Internet. Young people should cherish this opportunity. What a good time it is! On the Internet, the collision of ideas is global, and the spark of collision is also at the forefront of the times. It promotes a huge group to create the world, thus speeding up the progress of the world.

In the field of connectivity, we should be the world leader, which is 200000 people, plus 200000 people outsourced, plus the energy absorbed from theoretical workers around the world. For example, the theory of 5G was initiated by a mathematics paper by Professor Arikan in Turkey. In the field of computing, we also want to catch up with the United States, so we have a window of opportunity. To seize the window of opportunity, we still have to rely on collective strength to promote cluster computing. Inside our company, it is called "a cup of coffee absorbs the energy of the universe". The main reason is that the collective wisdom squeezes and collides with each other. Your thoughts ignite his spark, and his spark is on fire. For example, Zhang Xiang, president of the University of Hong Kong, mentioned the scientific research on the radiation cooling of ordinary glass. The sun shines on the outer surface, while the inner surface gives off air-conditioning. Isn't it a great achievement whether this technology can be applied to the shell of our machines?

Therefore, the invention of the individual should have a group platform to turn the spark into a raging fire. How to unite this platform? Everyone will wholeheartedly carry a "sedan chair".

Question: how does Huawei promote and distribute mathematics at the company level after realizing the importance of mathematics? In addition, with so many excellent mathematical talents joining Huawei, will Huawei continue to strengthen its cooperation with the scientific research community of colleges and universities after its mathematical ability is gradually enhanced?

Ren Zhengfei: Napoleon's practice of the founding of mathematics promoted the progress of French mathematics; Yekaterina introduced western philosophy and painting. Actually, it has also promoted Russia's progress. Physics is mathematics, civil architecture is mathematics, mechanics is also mathematics. Mathematics can be used in a variety of places to solve problems, covering a wide range. For example, experts in civil architecture solve the algorithm problem of civil architecture through their understanding of civil architecture.

Why does our company attach importance to mathematics? What is radio and what is communication? Isn't electromagnetic wave an equation? A mathematical paper by Professor Arikan of Turkey turned into a 5G fire ten years later. In a paper published in the early 1960s by Peter Ufeimtsev, a former Soviet scientist, diamond sections can scatter radio waves, and the United States built the F22 stealth plane 20 years later. In the 1950s, Professor Wu Zhonghua of the Chinese Academy of Sciences laid the foundation for today's aero-engine industry by using the three-dimensional flow theory to calculate the Isentropic section of jet engines.

In the future towards the information society, the importance of mathematics is getting higher and higher, artificial intelligence is mathematics, algorithm problems are mathematical problems. How to solidify some quantities of physics into a model by using algorithms? This model is for everyone to use. People who use the model do not have to understand it. They just need to use it. Of course, physics, chemistry, neurobiology, engineering, electronics... It's also very important.

We will set up a system simulation laboratory in the holy city. St. University's mathematics is very good in the world, wireless, network, computing, digital energy, supply, manufacturing, materials. You can do simulation experiments here; when we set up a mirror laboratory in Gui'an and do a large model experiment, we can build exactly the same complete scene in Gui'an, and you don't have to try it on the customer's actual scene. Teachers are invited to come to us to learn and do experiments. You can take away the results and we will learn from your published papers.

Therefore, for colleges and universities, after the company has overcome the difficulties, within a certain technological boundary, it will give greater support to colleges and universities and make a little contribution to the improvement of everyone's academic environment. But our money is much less than that of our country.

Question: we have a guiding ideology: study real problems, really study problems, and really solve problems. After the release of the list, we have promoted a cooperation project with Huawei, which will involve openness and some institutional issues. For example, how to land the plan we studied to Huawei's product line, and how to follow up? Can the person who gives the question also have an incentive? This encourages people to be willing to share things with us and to work with us to solve problems.

Ren Zhengfei: we can't be too stingy. After the teacher unveils the list, we should give corresponding bonuses and commendations, and combine spiritual incentives with material incentives.

Our learning platform is divided into several parts: first, "Huang Danian Tea House", where all theories (including our own) are fully open, because we believe that Huawei's integration ability should be better than other companies; second, "Jiaxian.com", which is Know-How, is technology, which is not open to society at present; third, the technically open part is published on "Huang Danian Tea House". The result of the teacher's research is theory, which may not be useful soon. Don't you know anyone about the follow-up question? They will give you the information, and you are interested and welcome to join us.

We need talents with the ability to solve problems, and people with all-round development are of little use to our company. For example, "Spark Award" is to solve the problem, you may also be "crooked melon split jujube", in addition to breaking this problem, the other do not quite understand. All-round development is to train leaders. To the doctor should not be all-round development, in which point can break through, we should change the evaluation system of the doctor. If it can be changed, it will be very valuable to the next generation of children.

Question: recently, I noticed that a "genius boy" left in the company for two years to start a robot business. A friend of mine who graduated from the University of Zurich was in a similar situation. He was also top in this field. He also left after two years of work. ChatGPT, electric car, DJI UAV. A lot of disruptive innovation is done by such startups. The first question is, what does Mr. Ren think of the difference between innovation and success among young people? The second question is, apart from the treatment, can our company give young people some resource encouragement in the system to encourage them to make breakthroughs, innovate and dare to challenge?

Ren Zhengfei: first, when you enter our company, the title "young genius" is gone. The positioning of "talented young man" is mainly used for the grading and salary of entry. When all the new employees are in the induction training in Sanyapo, there are all the topics published on the list. Everyone should reply enthusiastically. Some people will read this post, and some people will come to you for coffee. You have to communicate seriously, opposing opinions or agreeing. They are selecting people, and these experts have the power to grade and fix jobs for you on the spot, because they are very good experts themselves. If he thinks you can train, the rank will be very high, why do you have to start at the lowest level? He can also pull you into his project team, and you can go straight into the big project team. Large project team does not refer to large scale, but refers to high-end project team.

We emphasize that we should "not stick to one style to select talents", combine the old, middle-aged and young people, and roll forward in an open environment. Young people are most capable of making breakthroughs between the ages of 25 and 35; people with experience and seniority have the ability to structure, which is as important as breakthroughs. There are also problems of success and failure in science and technology. Failure is not discouraged, and failure is also a practical exercise for you.

Second, we cannot monopolize talents. Employees want to go out to start a business or go to other companies. It is useful for the country to make the best use of their talents and give full play to their value. In the past, there was a movie called "the Center dies before Dawn". We monopolized talent and spent his youth without using it, and we had to pay him a salary. We also reflect on the talent mechanism, for example, after some people enter the company, they do not make good use of what they are best at, and their failure to play a role is a waste of their youth.

The key to talent is how to use it. For example, we emphasize the vertical circulation mechanism of experts, in which experts cannot stay in one post for a long time and have to go to the front to fight for a cycle. as soon as the "stone" is opened, the "grass" under it grows taller, as everyone can see, so that young people will not be buried under the "stone". The purpose of the expert vertical cycle is to enable him to combine theory with practice to solve practical problems. The vertical cycle does not necessarily reduce the salary, the working group does not have a level, he can be higher than the administrative department, he can be a "lieutenant", "school officer", "major general", "general" …... Keep his cycle until he has the right position. Of course, unsuitable people also face elimination. Without theoretical practice, you can only feel it through dozens of blind explorations; without practice, there will be no deep understanding of theory.

Question: the world is gradually entering the data age. Algorithms, computing power and data are the three pillars of the data era. In terms of algorithm and computing power, colleges and universities have a way to solve it, but it is difficult for colleges and universities to collect data, and a lot of data is actually provided by various companies. However, some data may involve some privacy issues, which is difficult for enterprises to provide, so the related algorithms progress very slowly. What is Mr. Ren's opinion on this issue?

Ren Zhengfei: our company has a project, hoping to achieve tens of millions of servers and an operating system, all young people, I will let them "nonsense", anyway, we can not do tens of millions now. Now hundreds of thousands of operating systems can be achieved.

Our company's algorithm is to solve the algorithm of computing power, the energy is mainly focused on how to use the algorithm to reduce the consumption in the process of large traffic, and only do the basic platform of "black land". In principle, we do not do the algorithm to solve the customer application, for the business service algorithm part, only the customer can understand. The data belongs to others, so we can borrow it at best.

In the future, we may also learn from Google and do some research with no practical significance, which is not necessarily related to Huawei's business, but to make more contributions to human society. Of course, we don't have that much money yet. when the net profit is enough, our scientific frontier will take a step forward, from the spark to the universe.

Question: in some areas of applied mathematics, from Huawei's point of view, what problems can we do medium-term or long-term planning?

Ren Zhengfei: I think the combination of mathematics and industry should be the task of some specific applied research institutes. For example, Jiangsu University Zhenjiang Agricultural Machinery College and Zhengzhou have worked together to make hydraulic tractors. Why can't the college have its own characteristics? isn't it a famous school in some aspects? At present, high-horsepower hydraulic tractors are available only in the United States, and the arable land of nearly 10,000 mu a day is very powerful. The tractor made in our country has small horsepower, but it can already be done. Why are all Chinese colleges exactly the same?

The Chinese Academy of Sciences is responsible for discovering that it can explore some divergent and "boring" things and allow "nonsense." this is the forerunner of mankind. But turning your discoveries into engineering products or devices is not what you are good at, and requires a wider range of cooperation. Your theory can be of greater value only if it is combined with practice, and only when it is "useless" can it be "useful".

Question: just now you said that science is to do "boring" things, I very much agree. There is also a saying that, for example, Einstein could make the theory of relativity 100 years ago when he sat in his room, but modern science may need large instruments and large scientific devices. In this case, if a young scientist does not have a clear goal orientation, it may be difficult to make some outstanding progress. There are some uncertainties in basic research, so it is difficult to plan in advance. May I ask Mr. Ren how to view the balance between the two?

Ren Zhengfei: science is driven by curiosity. Some theories and papers have been published and may not work until one or two hundred years later. Einstein made a great discovery at a young age. People didn't understand that he was also very lonely. He went around looking for people to drink coffee. He talked about his own life. How many people are interested in drinking coffee with him for such a long time? you think someone will drink coffee with him every day. Greatness and loneliness are synonymous. For example, Mendel's pea hybridization experiment was carried out for eight years from 1856 to 1863. He published the research results in "Plant Hybridization experiment". He discovered genetic genes, but failed to attract academic attention at that time. Mendel's ideas and experiments are too advanced. It took a hundred years for people to realize the great value of genes to human society.

We still have to separate science from technology. If we talk about doing things with purpose, the purpose is technology, not science. Science is your hobby, whatever it takes to figure it out. Therefore, most scientists seem to be "crazy", and few scientists can see the achievements of their research in human society. For example, Maxwell did not know that his equations were so important to human society, that today's wireless world was based on his theory of electromagnetic fields, and that Faraday did not know that electrified society came from his coil frame experiments. Pythagoras also did not expect that his theory of geometry evolved into the bud of calculus.

Scientists are also "ascetic monks", and the process of scientists marching into the forefront of science is the same as that of missionaries in Africa. The missionaries who went to Africa were very bitter. Hundreds of years ago, they could only travel in small wooden boats from Europe to Africa, and it would be nice for 100 people to survive one person. And from the seaside deep into the barren land and the primeval forest, a few more people can survive. Is it possible for him to reverse the process and go back to England to visit his relatives? Can not go back, dedication is painful, but also happy. If it were not for their piety, Africa could not be developed and the language could not be understood, how could it be developed? Because they spread the language, the language environment in Africa is good, and there is a basis for development.

Question: do some research in colleges and universities and some research and development within our company need to work together to solve technical problems? I'd like to hear your suggestions in this regard.

Ren Zhengfei: the research of colleges and universities is not directly related to the research and development of our company, because colleges and universities have to shoulder the task of colleges and universities, it is a very broad concept. We cooperate with universities, our company just put something into it, release it through the power of colleges and universities, and give full play to the role of university scholars. For example, colleges and universities like "noodles", we put some "monosodium glutamate".

The second is to identify some outstanding students, which is our seed. If his life is really difficult, he can come to our company for an internship during the summer vacation, so that he can have the money to pay for his tuition. There are various ways, for example, our competition is organized all over the world, not just in Chinese colleges and universities. We need to attract talents from all over the world to solve some of our problems.

Question: I have three feelings: first, we are really tired of working on projects with Huawei, because to do national projects is to make annual reports once a year, to cooperate with other companies to make quarterly reports, and to cooperate with Huawei is called Weekly report. Our colleagues in Huawei would like to call me a daily newspaper. Second, the project is really on the ground. Third, Huawei's protection of data is really strict. I suggest that we can set up some special data publishing points for Huawei? We come to do some analysis, you do some physical control; we can also desensitize some data and remove Huawei's core technology.

Ren Zhengfei: I don't understand how these "farmers" of Huawei manage their daily life and whether they still want to play the "wake-up call". We say, "A cup of coffee absorbs the energy of the universe." for a period of time in the 2012 laboratory, when someone came back for reimbursement, they had to write a harvest report. You can find inspiration after a cup of coffee. Look how naive these officials are. He thought he was going to have coffee with God? How can these chief officials who have not drunk "coffee" manage you professors?

First, the future cooperation between our schools and enterprises should be reported every few years. Don't waste your time writing reports. If you report scientific research to anyone, you have to report it to yourself, because science is an endless frontier. When we allocate the money, you can study it and make it public. You can publish papers or write books, there is no need to bring the names of our employees, after all, they have been paid a high salary. As long as we read your paper to understand, we will begin to digest, digest and then pass it down, we will make a product to make money, why do we want to fight for fame with you?

Second, with regard to data, I am open-minded. The network of "Huang Danian Tea House" is connected with that of our company, and our joint research and cooperation with universities can access the data on Huawei cloud through the nearest tea house. When you need this data to enrich your results, you can apply and we will open it for you to download. In my opinion, opening up to you is also good for the country. If you give the data to others, it is also to promote the progress of society and the country. "Science knows no national boundaries", that's what it means.

Question: today I am here as an author to participate in the activity. As a problem maker, not only to undertake the concise release of the problem, but also to communicate with external teachers and internal staff, the work is actually quite heavy. As the author of the question, not the winner of the list, so the meeting did not give flowers. In my opinion, we should also give some incentives to the questioners.

Ren Zhengfei: I will give you this bouquet of flowers in front of me now. The problem maker is really difficult. One day, if you can't come up with a problem, you will run out of talent. Then I really want to send you flowers to encourage you.

The growth path of our scientists: one is to go vertically to climb the "Himalayas" for scientific ideals, the salary is a little less, but the income must be decent; the other is to take part in the battle of "killing pigs" with a "scalpel". Use the skills you have learned to help us find existing problems, solve problems, and generate commercial value, and the money may be a little more according to value. If you think you are getting less money, take your theoretical knowledge to participate in the battle of "killing pigs". How much income is related to the value of "killing pigs"? can you choose "mountain climbing" again after "killing pigs"? Yes, this is the omnipotent scientist.

Question: communicating with colleagues in the product line, I found that problems can be found and improved through business modeling and simulation, so that our products can achieve extremely high quality and minimalist architecture, and some advanced systems can be achieved with some less advanced processes. May I ask Mr. Ren, what guidance does the cutting-edge research on system simulation modeling in the computing industry give us?

Ren Zhengfei: first of all, we would like to thank Zhu Guangping, who used to be the Fellow of the company and has retired. At that time, he said, "We want to be the fifth computer in the world". We all laughed at him and thought it was "nonsense". How could we rise in computing products? While you are doing it, you have proposed to be the second in the world, as if you are not willing to be the second in the world recently?

China's social system has its unique advantages, China's high-speed rail, highway, power supply system, telecommunications system. The infrastructure has been built to uninhabited places, and if there is no state power to do these things at all costs, farmers will not be able to lift themselves out of poverty. This is the superiority of socialism. China has put forward the concept of "counting the east and the west", which cannot be done by the United States, because the American economy is private ownership. Why can't the US power grid catch up with the stability of China's power grid? The rule of China's power grid is scientific distribution, with both manned and uninhabited areas scientifically distributed, while American enterprises will only distribute where they can make money. In particular, China's HVDC transmission leads the world, which requires thousands of equipment matching research, which is not coordinated by the national plan, and can not be done. At the same time, the Soviet Union, which started at the same time, was not made because of its disintegration. There are more than 60 power grids in the United States, which cannot be coordinated and cannot be done. Medium voltage DC drive, no transformer, how much space will be saved.

Norway is the richest country in the world, with a per capita GDP of more than US $100,000 more than 20 years ago, but the country's population is so scattered that no one is building communications infrastructure in rural areas, television is not available in some places, and it is difficult to get through to the phone. Therefore, the superior mechanism of China's socialism will make it possible for China's computing power to rise.

Of course, we can not be the first, the United States is still strong, because advanced chip manufacturing in China is still difficult, we are using other ways to make up for the backwardness in the chip. The purpose of building a large-scale cloud architecture system simulation laboratory in Shengcheng is to create our advanced "digital wind tunnel" to accelerate the iterative speed of scientific research through system modeling, analysis, simulation, verification and optimization. There are many excellent mathematicians and physicists in the area, so you should make full use of it.

Question: there are different research departments within the company, such as 2012 Lab and Product Line Research Department, including various R & D teams directly responsible for product delivery. I would like to ask Mr. Ren, how can we do better internal technical cooperation, technological competition, and external technical cooperation?

Ren Zhengfei: scientific and rational division of labor is too difficult, isn't it a planned economy? If it is scientific and reasonable, it is impossible to say that there are duplicate resources. The market economy allows repeated research and waste, which is to allow everyone to have a competitive relationship. Multi-module research, in the competition, it is possible that the small module will eat the big module, then we will recognize the leading position of the small module, by him to integrate resources. Cadre tenure system, expert cycle system, learning platform discussed by everyone. The department's "fence" was gradually torn down. Now we open the discussion, speculate in the discussion, learn in the speculation, and see that the content of everyone's discussion is also learning.

Question: the student evaluation orientation of the school is different from that of our company. For example, I do pure theoretical research in mechanics at school. After doctors like us come to the company, most of them have an adaptation process. Some people may adapt for a short time, some may adapt for a long time, and some leave without adapting.

Ren Zhengfei: it is too complicated that we do not participate in the reform of the education system. I once praised Hengshui Middle School for changing the victorious way of adapting to the external environment if I could not change the external environment. Hengshui Middle School has the victory method of Hengshui Middle School, and Shenzhen Middle School also has the method of Shenzhen Middle School. We cannot use the educational model of Shenzhen to ask the mainland. We have to agree with all kinds of education models.

Our company is a selection system for employees, not a training system. When students choose whether or not to come to Huawei, they should consider whether the job is suitable for your interests. Don't come if it's not appropriate, it's a waste of your youth. We can't design fate for our students. When you enter Huawei, you should consider adaptability, not only the high salary, but also whether the position given to you is in line with your interests and interests, and whether you are willing to contribute here. Huawei cannot accommodate the people of the world, and it is impossible for them to adapt.

The company has only one general ideal, employees can not ask the company to achieve your ideal, you must adapt to this general ideal, participate in the main force and play your role. Our main waterway will not change. The scope of your cooperation with the university will be wider, narrower when it comes to the 2012 laboratory, and even narrower to product research and development, with long-term and clear indicators.

Question: now the computer is developing very rapidly, and there is a new concept every two or three years. If we study this direction in the previous month, there may be a new direction two or three months later, and our research will be out of date. I would like to ask Mr. Ren, how can we keep up with the trend of the times? Second, does Ren have any good suggestions on how to train and guide students in colleges and universities?

Ren Zhengfei: the iterative speed of computers is much faster than that of communications, not every two or three years, but two or three months. We should feel the speed of change in the world. If you can't visit foreign websites, you can feel it on the "Huang Danian Tea House" technology website. When our staff are outside reading papers, they post what they think is useful; if copyright issues are involved, they will take off the index and you can find a way to read it yourself. The speed of change in the world will be faster and faster, and the future world will be very scary. Yuval Herari said at the Davos Forum that people will be slaves to machines in the future. The Congress asked me questions, but it was difficult for me to answer. I was relatively ignorant of social problems. I said that when people died, their souls were gone. They were talking about simulated souls. The actual digital soul will not be without, it is inherited, and AI is subverting our past cognition. Therefore, the change of human society is unimaginable. If you want to perceive this change, you should read more literature.

I often tell our senior experts, can we work less and read more literature? if we don't even know the direction, how can we take the right path? You have read the literature and said a few words while drinking coffee, which may inspire the following people. In my youth, the 69-year-old American George Helmeyer invented the liquid crystal. At that time, people depicted a wall in the future as an image. We hadn't even seen the TV at that time, so how could we understand the future? think about how powerful this scientific prediction is! Now even the LCD wall has fallen.

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